Ben Witter

[6bmike]

I saw this when I was checking out the SMT driver head. Anyone familiar with Ben Witter? He seems to have the right idea- he teaches a great impact position.


http://www.benspowergolf.com/newslet...rClubpinch.htm


this is the home page:


http://www.benspowergolf.com/


Let me know what you think?

[MizunoJoe]

Ben has a great pre-Impact position with max LW cock and retention. He says,

"As the club follows the lead of my hands & body, there is a natural retention of the angle that was formed between my left arm and shaft.

I am neither conscious or aware of this happening as I make my swing."

That may be true for Ben, but for most, that won't happen without a DIRECT mental involvement and training to get to that position. But that's only half the battle, you must also be conscious of LW maintenance through Impact and the correct amount of LW acceleration to get the shaft to lean forward at Impact. That is to say, you can get to that pre-Impact position, and still have the clubhead beat the hands to the ball.

[Yoda]

...you can get to that pre-Impact position, and still have the clubhead beat the hands to the ball.

Homer Kelley would agree with MJ. He once said that even good players get the Clubhead Lag within three inches of the Ball and then lose it. And he wrote that, at Impact, the Clubhead Lag Pressure Point Pressure is in its "greatest jeopardy."

[mb6606]

I find that when swinging it is much more difficult to sense the lag. Everything wants to straighten and I feel less control less lag.
Is this a result of swinging versus hitting?

[Yoda]

I find that when swinging it is much more difficult to sense the lag. Everything wants to straighten and I feel less control less lag.
Is this a result of swinging versus hitting?

The Swinger does not sense an active Lag Pressure Thrust because Centrifugal Force -- not Muscle Power -- is driving the Club. Therefore, Lag Pressure can be monitored only as the Centrifugal Pull of the Sweet Spot and the drag of the lagging Clubhead (10-19-C).

Then, per 6-C-2-A, it is this passive Clubhead Feel that is 'aimed' from The Top, i.e., directed either along ('Tracing') the Delivery Line (of the Clubhead) or down the Delivery Path (of the Hands).

[Uppndownn]

Yoda,

What you just said makes perfect sense.
Is my incubator on fire or did I just get lucky?

UPP in still snowy Ohio

[Yoda]

Yoda,

What you just said makes perfect sense.

Is my incubator on fire or did I just get lucky?

Don't question this stroke of good fortune, Uppndownn. Just accept it as one of life's Tender Mercies. Sometimes, it is best to just 'let the mystery be.'

[Theodan]

Either my screen is skewed, or he still has clubhead pressure lag AFTER impact. Is that what you guys are talking about?

Charlie

[EdZ]

I find that when swinging it is much more difficult to sense the lag. Everything wants to straighten and I feel less control less lag.
Is this a result of swinging versus hitting?

mb, to add to what Yoda mentions - for my own 'swing' there is a MUCH clearer sense of 'heavy' - that outward pull of CF - in fact I think one of the mistakes some people make when learning to 'swing' is to try for too much angle retention

- IMO it is easier to learn swinging via a full sweep release, try to release the club right from the top, to get that clubshaft fully 'straight' with the left arm - and feel that this happens at about hip high coming down - this is the feel of "uncock THEN roll" that a swinger should have. The feel of "throwing the clubhead AWAY from the target" - while there is less clubHEAD lag, there is still LAG PRESSURE - which is what 'heavy' is all about

as they say - What goes around, comes around -

By contrast, a hitter should focus much more on keeping that right wrist bend as long as possible - the "drive" that creates the uncock AND roll of a hitter - the drive of PP1 to the aiming point - a spot on the ground a few feet in front of the ball - to both arms straight.

This is a key difference between hitting, and swinging and is very important to understand - you are coming at the goal, impact, from two nearly opposite extremes.

And if you can balance those extremes......

[EdZ]

I saw this when I was checking out the SMT driver head. Anyone familiar with Ben Witter? He seems to have the right idea- he teaches a great impact position.


http://www.benspowergolf.com/newslet...rClubpinch.htm


this is the home page:


http://www.benspowergolf.com/


Let me know what you think?

A great swing from what I can see, wonderful post impact position, reminds me a little of MacDonald Smith.