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Old 02-11-2015, 02:03 PM
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From my source:
"This is interesting. I was referring to the initial torque that starts the body's pivot that sets the whole swing in a circular motion. But as I corrected myself, Mr. Kelley refers to this as Pivot Thrust not Pivot torque. It remains a mystery to me why in a system based on the physics of rotation and torque is required to initiate circular motion why the word torque doesn't appear in TGM. Perhaps your friend would like to offer an explanation."
Torque is a measurement of the Thrust produced by the Pivot. We say "Pivot Thrust" which includes any thrust from the least to the most thrust.
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:58 PM
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"I see. Can you ask him if it is because torque is a measurement of a force and not the force itself that it is not mentioned in TGM? And thank him for me for the help."
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Old 02-11-2015, 04:03 PM
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More work for Daryl: "Air , your friend mentions right forearm torque . Ask him if the left forearm can torque while the right doesn't ( passively or actively ). And does this assume a 10-2-D grip if the answer is yes"
I only meant that the right forearm can produce a force during a Flip Release and it's not uncommon.

The #3 Accumulator and Pressure Point will Roll the Left Arm while simultaneously keeping the Left Shoulder at the Center. Roll power of the Right Elbow. This is "Hinge Action". Any attempt to square the Clubface by applying Left arm rotational force will cause a Swiveled Impact. This not only results in compression leakage but alignment issues as well. This is the hard way to play Golf.

The guy that you're talking to is a #2PP swinger. He's having a difficult time understanding how the Left Arm Rotates. I know this because he's asking about the 10-2-D Grip. The 10-2-D doesn't need much Left Arm Rotation and is often adopted by players who don't understand how the Pivot and Right Forearm Rotates the Left Arm. If he wants to use a Standard 10-2-B Grip he needs the Right Forearm Angle of Approach and #3 Accumulator Roll. Tell him that at Impact, His Right Forearm, although its pointed downward, must also almost be Pointing at the Target (On-plane, which is almost parallel to the Base line of the Plane). This needs a Pivot with a great amount of Rotation.. Like Greg McHatton likes to say, "it's not how fast, but how far".
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Old 02-11-2015, 08:48 PM
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Air, let me clarify for your friend.

The Right Forearm should not Rotate as though you were using a screw-driver to remove a screw but the Left Arm will. You remove the screw (counter-clockwise rotation) with the Left Arm but only when and as much as the Right Elbow Straightens (Release Swivel). This is "Roll Power" of the #3 Accumulator. At Impact, the back of the Left Wrist will face the Target but the inside of the Right Wrist will be facing "Upwards". Watch a dozen slow-mo video's of the Pro's, down the line and face-on. Watch the inside of the right wrist.
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Old 02-11-2015, 08:54 PM
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Excellent video. **** (four stars) Good guy whoever he is. The inside of the right wrist is pointed upwards throughout the release and impact intervals. Classic Homer Kelley.

Watch his right forearm travel from release to impact without any longitudinal rotation of the right forearm to square the face.
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Old 02-12-2015, 05:27 AM
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Excellent video. **** (four stars) Good guy whoever he is. The inside of the right wrist is pointed upwards throughout the release and impact intervals. Classic Homer Kelley.

Watch his right forearm travel from release to impact without any longitudinal rotation of the right forearm to square the face.
His name is BJ Hattaway, he's a TGM AI and S&T certified instructor. I was following more closely his videos a few years ago when he was doing the "basics of TGM".
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Old 02-12-2015, 07:37 AM
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B.J. Hathaway,
http://augustagolfinstruction.com/
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Old 02-12-2015, 09:21 AM
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http://augustagolfinstruction.com/
Thanks guys. I visited Augusta Golf and viewed some videos. There are a lot of people with some basic understanding of TGM. Not good enough.
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Old 02-12-2015, 09:32 AM
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Basic understanding of TGM doesn't sound too bad. What does it take to be good enough?
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